Exciting New Arts Centre for Totnes

Exciting New Arts Centre for Totnes This is a place for people to share art, music, conversation, and good food. All of them were successful. I came to Totnes to semi-retire in my late fifties.

About Harriet Thomas and this new venture

I arrived in Totnes at the end of the 2010s. Many years before when I was in my mid thirties I had set up a successful vegetarian cafe and bookshop in West London called Tide Tables Cafe & Father Thames Books in a derelict arch next to the Thames which I had rented from the council. Not much had developed in the vegetarian cafe world since Cranks had whic

h I loved, but in those days Starbucks was in its infancy and having been abroad and been introduced to great coffee I could see that wholesome vegetarian food and great coffee together could be a winning combination. Tide Tables was an instant hit and once it was up and running properly I opened a little sister cafe nearby when a park cafe became available and then I opened a tiny juice bar in the town centre. People were waking up to good food and good coffee and I had been interested in organics and biodynamics from an early age after I had worked for someone on the Gerson therapy for cancer and had seen her get well. I have often had the word entrepreneur attached to me but I never saw myself as more than a single parent with a passion for cafes trying to scratch a living making places that I would want to frequent myself. It takes a very long time to actually make any money in cafes as the margins are so low and the overheads and loans are invariably huge. But it’s been a wonderful adventure and a joy especially working with an amazing team of young people many of whom grew up in the cafes and stayed with me. I still own the cafes in London still staffed by people who have been with me from near the beginning. I wanted to study art and I attended The Totnes School of Art and Design and went on to a degree course at Plymouth College of Art. But I surprised myself by beginning to get itchy feet for creating another cafe. Along the way I had bought 50 acres of old growth forest in Vancouver in a region where they were still clear cutting everything. I sold the juice bar and bought the forest with the proceeds because I was desperate to protect it as it was one of the last areas of old growth trees on an island I used to visit. I sold the forest a few years ago because now the trees are prized and it is now in safe hands. So now I had some decent cash behind me. It’s hard to imagine now but in those days when I first came here it was hard to get a good coffee in Totnes. This was before the brilliant Curator had come along. Since then we have the fantastic Hairy Barista especially in its new premises, the wonderful Canteen at Mansion House all doing great coffee and food and of course the Bull, and the Kommune cafe, among others. Totnes is now amazingly well served with great cafes and I couldn’t be happier about it. I had always wanted to try a vegan place as I have never been comfortable with the milk industry which is very hard on cows. I opened Zappas with a little guesthouse upstairs which has turned out to be popular enough but with only 9 indoor seats it’s pretty hard to survive the winters it being so niche, and we will become vegetarian when the place above Greenlife opens but with carefully sourced milk. By the time I took over the lease for the space above Greenlife we were still in national lockdowns. It had been empty for a few years and when I spotted it pre the pandemic it was still full of ceilings and partitions and riddled with asbestos. My original idea was for a coffee shop full of sofas and big plants. The type you can lounge in all day for the price of a cup of coffee unlike Zappa's where we feel obliged to move people on after a couple of hours when they set up office, just so we can free the seats for the next customer!! Anyway over time we came to realise that the premises above Greenlife has the scope for a great Arts Space. The civic hall has had a lot of money spent on it in the last few years and is now a fantastic resource for the town as it’s become quite lovely and the two spaces together have so much potential to work in tandem for all sorts of events. As well social functions I can see a lot of potential to add to the bringing of great artists and speakers and workshops to the town, to add to the great work Hairy Barista is doing with the Adama Events also Drift and their work the Barrel House, Sea Change festivals, our venues at St Mary’s and St John’s, the Barrel House, the Civic Hall and us ( if we can get all the permissions we need) Altogether Totnes has the potential to become an even more extraordinary centre for the Arts in the South West than it is already, attracting big names in music, workshops and talks and adding to the great festivals we already enjoy here. We have put in for an Arts Council Grant with a project to help young people acquire skills. To create this place I have managed to pull together an amazing team of master joiners builders, electricians, plasterers, plumbers and upholsterers, all of whom are local people who have got stuck in and are wanting to create the best venue possible for the town. We don’t yet have an opening date. But it will be soon! Totnes is an independently minded town which is why we love it so, quite apart from its arty, foodie caring nature!! I realise this venture has stirred up a lot of controversy lately which is why the creation of this page is timely. Naturally people get worried when they don’t know what’s going on. People are worried about noise mostly and an inaccurate and quite scaremongering flier is doing the rounds and shopkeepers are telling me that they are having “pressure” put on them to object to us being permitted to open in the evenings. In answer to any concerns we have renewed all the windows and will be taking many other soundproofing measures and will carry out sound checks in line with any guidance or regulations planning puts in front of course as long as it remains viable. I do understand the concerns - the coffee shop idea has morphed into a full blown arts centre with dance floor and catwalk possibilities and state of the art lighting and sound - since I first took the premises on and applied for change of use all those years ago. But it is quite funny really. There is a flat roof above Greenlife with CCTV now and every week we are seeing people peering through the letterbox or sneaking around taking pictures or even coming wearing masks to snoop around, guerilla style! We are trying to support the arts and the town and make it the sort of place you will want to bring your friends to when they come to visit you. Do come and see what we are up to. All anyone has to do is come and visit us when we are working and we will be happy to show you around and hopefully put your minds at rest and excite you about the project. Harriet

07/10/2025

Hello wonderful people and friends of the arts centre. Totnes will soon have a wonderful new place to socialise. We hope you are going to like it. We are very proud to announce we shall be hosting a couple of morning and afternoon events on the 1st and 2nd of November. We will be opening our doors prior to this and getting on with the business of setting up our cafe and bar. So much to be done still but we are finally getting there. We are currently working on building a new social media presence and will post the links here when they are ready. Thanks everyone for all your lovely support and come and see us when you can and look out for the next step on our journey to be allowed permission for evening hours.

Harriet.

30/05/2025

IT'S A YES!!!!

We now have an alcohol and entertainments licence up to 5pm!

Thank you so much to all the supporters who turned up yesterday for the hearing and spoke so positively and also to those well wishers who could not be present but whose support has been such an ongoing inspiration. 🥰

The Licensing team was impressive in their scrutiny and professional objectivity; it was good to see the process in action.

There is still so much to do to be ready to open, but we're definitely on course and getting there!

28/05/2025

So wonderful to be receiving numerous messages of good luck from supporters of the Arts Centre before the Hearing tomorrow. Thank you all ❤️

Do come along to Follaton House at 2pm if you would like to attend proceedings - public are invited.

It still seems truly amazing to me that we are having to go through all this just to be able to have an entertainments licence until 4.30 in the afternoon!

I so hope that the neighbours are reassured after the recent sound test. They have no reason to fear noise disturbance it’s been officially proven now.

After so many months of disinformation and the truly energetic campaign against us having permission to be open into the evenings, I simply cannot believe they would be worried about us having lunchtime concerts and talks!

Let’s see! Wish us luck! We’ve lost a summertime of gorgeous entertainments. If we have to appeal this, it could take up to who knows how long to get it through.

Next time we shall hire our own lawyers because really what reason regulation or bylaw could there possibly be to not let such a lovely thing exist? 😊 Harriet x

20/05/2025

Great news!

Yesterday we had a sound test and the building behaved brilliantly.

We had asked a professional acoustic engineer and two people from the council Licencing Team to come for a visit.

We all piled into the two nearest gardens to carry out the check. On the way round to them we also stood in the square and listened hard with the decibel monitor in place.

We are very grateful to our neighbour who allowed the sound check to take place in her and her neighbour’s garden.

The building behaved supremely well both with the windows open and windows closed. We could hardly hear anything at all in the gardens and only at levels a lot higher than we would ever want inside the building.

Last day tomorrow to get your forms back to Licensing if you would like the opportunity to speak at the Hearing at the end of the month. It would be wonderful to have a few of you there with positive comments if you agree to us being allowed to have an entertainments licence.

05/05/2025

Hi All,
Latest news regarding licensing. Because there has been opposition to us being able to have an entertainments licence until 5pm it now has to go to a committee sometime this month. It is what it is. Wish us luck!

Disappointing update.email: licensing@swdevon.gov.ukUnfortunately a small group of local residents with deep pockets are...
12/04/2025

Disappointing update.

email: [email protected]

Unfortunately a small group of local residents with deep pockets are determined to prevent the creation of our lovely Arts Centre.

They are apparently applying all possible pressure on the council to this end.

It turns out that we were not strictly on the correct planning tack to reach our Arts Centre goal. This is not necessarily a problem as Planning has discretionary powers.

But because of this small group Planning is asking us to re apply.

It’s not clear why this information was not forthcoming earlier -we have been waiting 6 months now!

This apparently very grey area in planning law has become crucial due to the action of this very small group of town centre residents.

In view of this opposition it is important that all protocols are not only adhered to, but are seen so to be.

We have therefore had to withdraw our current application.

Apologies to all of you lovely folk who took the time and made the effort to write in in support of the previous application.

In the meantime we have applied for an entertainment licence until 5pm which our current opening hours do allow for, plus the sale of alcoholic beverages.

We want to be able to at least hold afternoon talks and lunchtime concerts through at least part of the summer so we hope planning will not take quite so long this time.

Please do write in if you have the time and inclination to support us again. You have until the end of April to let licensing know you would like us to be permitted to hold daytime events in the space.

I had a visit yesterday from a representative of the pressure group. They are promising to block this application too unless we agree to a list of demands from them.

These are:

• Never opening the windows - ever! Even when there is no event taking place.
• Not selling alcohol. Are we children?
• Not opening on Sundays. Don’t we want wonderful cultural events in our town on a Sunday afternoon?
• Not using the roof terrace – which could be one of the most significant assets to the cafe and so lovely for the town!

My visitor also wanted me to agree to never apply to be open beyond 9pm in the future. If I agreed to this then these people would agree not to block our current application for an entertainments licence until 5pm.

It amazes me how destructive people with money can be to the overall wishes of a town.

You may wonder what the Planning rules are for an Arts Centre.
Well there aren’t really any. Consequently we are to apply again under the use class title “Sui generis” meaning unique!

Neither the brilliant Ashburton or Buckfastleigh Arts Centres have planning permissions in place.

Other cafes showcasing evening events do not appear to need it either. Lots of cafes and other commercial spaces in the town put on frequent events without having specific permissions. They may have some kind of historic use class precedence. They might be
able to put on a show by obtaining a Temporary Events Notice which allows them special permission on certain nights.

We are not even allowed to do this.

We all know how cash-strapped the council are and while we don’t blame them for being nervous when a member of the public threatens them with legal action, we do wish they hadn’t
sat on our application for the last six months.

Perhaps dealing with the numerous Freedom Of Information Requests from the pressure group and the privately hired consultants has meant things got necessarily delayed. We can only guess.

In the meantime just three or four people have ruined the summer of beautiful cultural events, and also spoilt a great opportunity for the enrichment of Totnes, not just culturally, but in terms of the town’s footfall, economy and jobs – just when we need them!

It seems out of balance that such a small group should be able to outweigh the wish of the vast majority for the Arts Centre initiative to come to fruition.

If we find the heart and the courage to fight on we may hire consultants of our own next time but this will use up precious resources we want to be spending on the centre.

Please send your good thoughts and wishes in this direction and hold the possibility alive in your hearts. . . .

Please say Yes if you want us to have an entertainment licence to 5pm here:

email: [email protected]

Big thank you to the town for all your well wishes so far.

Steps are now renovated and complete and open againLooking very good!!!
12/04/2025

Steps are now renovated and complete and open again
Looking very good!!!

Apparently, in keeping with the whole Space Age style of the Market Square, which we inherited from the 1960s, we used t...
13/03/2025

Apparently, in keeping with the whole Space Age style of the Market Square, which we inherited from the 1960s, we used to have rather fantastic space age street lighting which would have complimented the steps we share with the Civic Hall.

We understand they were given away to Dartmouth somewhere along the line and replaced with the mock Victorian ones you see today. 🤔

See example below of what we lost. Maybe one day our town square might be returned to its former glory, as its a bit of a hotch-potch these days. 🙃

We love seeing the guys carrying on working hard this week on the steps we share with the Civic Hall. I am so glad to se...
13/03/2025

We love seeing the guys carrying on working hard this week on the steps we share with the Civic Hall. I am so glad to see these magnificent example of their kind being saved! 😀🙏

Hello everyone😀as if in support of our grand opening, Charlie and team at South West Concrete Repairs are giving the ent...
06/03/2025

Hello everyone😀as if in support of our grand opening, Charlie and team at South West Concrete Repairs are giving the entrance staircase to the Arts Centre a make over. Thank you Council, I am sure the facelift is going to look great, in time for the summer season as well.🙏🙏🙏

In other news, we are excited to announce the delivery of our top of the range Coffee Machine and are keeping it under wraps (literally!) until the opening with this cosy blanket. 🤗

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