21/11/2025
I’ve always said I’ve got a “thing” about leadership. Many years ago, when I was in financial planning, I hosted a leadership lunch that was really well attended, and it sparked a journey for me. Over the years, I’ve been incredibly grateful to meet many leaders … some through the Vinnies CEO Sleepout, others in my business career, and more recently through The Leadership Think Tank.
I met Gary Bertwistle at my first Leadership Think Tank event and have listened to his “Mojo Sessions” podcasts ever since. I recently rediscovered an insightful conversation with Cameron Schwab from Design CEO. That led me to reach out to Cameron last week, and we had a fantastic, fruitful conversation.
Cameron mentioned his most recent episode of his own podcast series “In the Arena,” where he interviewed Jenny George, Dean of Melbourne Business School. Both of them are not just seasoned leaders and CEO’s who educate and lead other CEO’s but also artists in their own right - Cameron a visual artist and Jenny a singer. It’s fascinating how leadership, strategy, and the arts interweave in their stories.
So, if you’re curious about the intersection of leadership and creativity, take a moment to check out Cameron’s conversation with Jenny. It’s a reminder that leadership is as much about humanity and creativity as it is about strategy.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4pYlDrk07N38JNVz50NLzi?si=Vo1TWaE9TvKGPb06lgUjOA
In The Arena · Episode